It seems that everyone is eagerly waiting for the result. Much as we want to expedite the process, let us not forget that those who are involved are all VOLUNTEERS. It is unfair that we harass them too much.
Rest assure, that even if this is a VOLUNTARY work, we will try our best to squeeze it in our respective REGULAR jobs so as to publish the result soon. PEACE!
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I agree po. Let us wait na lang po patiently...
Big Thank you Ms. Rechilda and to the Math Volunteers.
God Bless.
Good day ma'am! We would like to request the MTAP committee to make an honest investigation about a possible leakage of answers to a certain school (St. Patrick School of Novaliches). They took the exam at Good Shepherd Cathedral School (Fairview) and their students have a noticeable speed in taking the test and their scores range from 47- 50 in all levels. They actually ranked 1st among all the schools who took the exam in the same venue. We would be very happy for their achievement if it would be proven that they had an honest contest. Thank you very much! More powers to MTAP.
how do they know the scores of the exams at Good Shepherd Cathedral School? the results have not been posted on this site yet...
@dadriano : how do they know the scores of the exams at Good Shepherd Cathedral School? the results have not been posted on this site yet...
do you have proofs to prove that they have leakage ..your accusing them
Good Day. Just want to ask dadriano where did you get the information that st. patrick school got the scores of 47-50? My nephew studies at the said school and he's one of the students that took the exam at Good Sheperd Cathedral School but his parents didn't have any idea what's the score. Just hurt about that issue because everyday my nephew reviews at the school after class then at the evening he review with his mother 'til 11pm. But now there's rumor that their school has a leakage of the exam? Any way as I said, I'm just asking.
@ dadriano: Possible leakage or leakage per se is very likely to exist even at the Oral Contest Rounds. Imagine, the quizmaster is still reading the questions... may sagot na agad without even bothering to pretend they are computing sana coz it's not Easy round and unless you are a calculator eh medyo malabo yung speed nila. hahaha tinalo yung may leak na team ang lahat ng chinese schools that particular year. The next year, that leaky school was not a top performer both in written & oral rounds so lalong naging obvious tuloy. Cheers! Sana baguhin lahat ng questions this year para patas ang laban.
Now that the scores for St. PAtrick are up, they did get quite a number of first honors. Which is good for them actually. I commend their preparatinos and all.
But MTAP should really do an honest investigation on this. This site has a record of the school performance from 2006 to present, and St. Patrick hasn't figured prominently in the Area 2, let alone in the Sector.
No offense meant to anybody, but this definitely elicits suspicions. Not only does it elicit suspicions, but likewise fear and disappointment to other teams who worked hard, even enrolled in MTG only to be clouded with allegations like this.
pnu puh ninyong nasabi na may leakage ehh.. ung kapatid q? hating gabi na matulog dahil sa kakareview.. ng buong libro!!!!! back to back!! at sa school din nag rereview cla!!! its not true!!! matatalino lng talga ang studyante ng st.patrick...!!! ingit lng kau...
iam 1 of students of st. patrick... we didnt cheat!!!! just for that!! ang kapatid ko ay isa sa mga nilaban sa mtap halos ndi n xa matulog kakareview back to back isang buong book... sinisigurado q pung ualang leakage ang palalaro nmin sa mtap... malinis kami mag laro... ndi puh kmi kagaya ng iniisip nyo!!! sadyang matatalino lng ang mga estudyante ng st. patrick... don't u know u offend me? as a student of st. patrick...
hey!! what did u say? our school was a cheater? no!!! it wasn't!!! why? because my sister is one of the contestant... and every night she review all the reference book we have.... halos ndi na nga xa matulog!! ehh... as 1 of the students of st.patrick we know that no cheating happened and i asure u!!! so pls stop this issue about our school!!! sadyang matalino lng kami!!!!
@ Unknown: I agree with your comment. Dapat nga may investigation. Pati Falcon tinalo nya ng todo-todo.
MTAP... this is not the first time na may leak. Year 2009, may possible leak din sa ibang Area naman, hanggang Regional meron silang unusual na familiarity sa mga questions.
Dapat talaga baguhin ang lahat ng mga tanong para may FRESH START para sa lahat.
@ ivanA: Sorry to know that your nephew is wrongly suspected of benefiting from the leak, but sabi nga ni @ Unknown: eh may history kasi ang mga bata dito sa MTAP. Pero sabagay, kung talagang namemorize nya lahat ng mga past MTAP questions eh di malayong maperfect ng St. Patrick kasi RECYCLE lang naman ang mga questions ng MTAP.
It's HIGH time na magbago ng ystilo ng mga questions. Ika nga ni Ate Vangie (Pinoy Siri)... "Ayusin mo ang mga tanong! Fix your questions!"
to those who accused St.Patrick school of novaliches..i have a son who study on that same school ..i hope di kayo nag accused ng ganyan sa mga bata and ipag kalat sa buong mundo na cheater cla.. the chidren do their job as well as the teachers todo rvw kahit saturday may pasok dec28 rvw pa rin sana kung may reklamo kayo sumulat kayo ng maayos sa commmitee ..sbi nga ni @JOHN : the problem is in the questionnaire kasi paulit ulit bkit di ginawa ng iba na magreview din wag yun ipagsigawan sa buong mundo St. patrick has a leakage internet po 2 lahat makaka access so please stop doing this to our school ..kung cla ay may leakage dapat lahat ng examinees pasok at lahat first..
@unknown : bkit wla ba karapatan ang st. patrick na mag shine ..porket maliit lang ang school hinahamak mo di lahat ng malalaki at sikat na school magagaling ang studyante proven na yan..
@dadriano and unknown : madaming website may reviewer kaya wag nyo pag initan ang St. Partrick ..
ma,am i think that there should no issue to be moot because many of you actually because they not accept that they defeated by unpopular school. The school that is passed to the stage of being a good school in Manila. written lang yan nagkataon lamang na bumabawi sila dahil wala namang nakapsok sa kanila noong 2011 sa individual. like what the blogger said above, pinagre-review sila ng buong book and also marami sa kanilang estudyante ang bumibisita sa math website ko at naghahanap sila ng formula and bago ang elimination, lagi silang bumibisita sa website namin.
hindi ko po sila ipinagtatanggol ako'y nagsasabi lamang ng feeling..
more powers to MTAP and mam rechilda....
even if the questions are "recycled", we could not avoid suspicions since even grade 1 students of the said school have reached honors. and @thimz.skie.muh we get your point. no need to repeat your statements.
what i mean is, do 1st graders even attend MTAP sessions?
and would it hurt if an honest investigation is conducted by MTAP?
@ idko: Pa share naman ng website mo para matulungan din ang mga ibang bata. Salamt.
@ prettygirl: Sana ishare mo ang website na sinasabi mo... Salamat!
@thimz.skie.muh: simmer down...
the best that St. Patrick can do is to share the so-called website they used for reviewing. All of us here will salute St. Patrick for their generosity at para matapos na ang domination ng mga Area 1 schools... yun lang naman ang lamang nila sa ibang Areas, A good collection of years and years of MTAP questions.
I will be happy if St. Patrick rule this year's MTAP!
Lets give St. Patrick School of Novaliches the benefit of the doubt. The student just played their part (as to which they were really trained hard or feed with the same sets of questions)
They still have the chance to prove themselves that they have had a clean fight by waiting the Area Orals Team Competition and the Regional Individual (written) Competition which i am sure they will fly high with colors just like their showed off performance in the Elimination Round which shocks most of us trainers.
Lets accept the fact that incidents like this really happens (possible leakage)for the MTAP Elimination Round were not done simultaneously (some division have it on the 20th while the others have it on the 21st. Lets just call the attention of the MTAP Committee whose in charge of this instead of blaming those who benefited from this lapses.
Lastly, stop posting words/statements that will later lead on damaging the integrity and prestige of the MTAP, lets look forward and take this as lessons learned so that it will never happen again ...
MORE POWER TO MTAP !!!
SEE YOU TO THE NEXT lEVEL OF THE COMPETITION ...
If anything is true be honest. if anything should be glorified look upon it with good.
For some reason, i tried some researching and this is what i found. I only used this website for reference.
this pertains to St. Patrick School of Novaliches and the allegations of cheating hurled against the students and the school.
Below are the links for their performances the past year.
2011 No elementary student from St. Patrick got any Merit awards.
http://mtapncrprivate.blogspot.com/2011/01/area-4-bscc-testing-center.html
2010 - 2 students from Grade2 qualified for Individual Regional Finals
http://mtapncrprivate.blogspot.com/2010/01/update.html
2009 - 3 grade5 students got merit awards (1 2nd honors, 2 3rd honors)
2 Grade6 (3rd honors)
http://mtapncrprivate.blogspot.com/2009/01/2009-metrobank-mtap-dep-ed-math.html
2008 - No finalist and no merit awardee
http://mtapncrprivate.blogspot.com/2008/02/elementary-merit-awardees.html
http://mtapncrprivate.blogspot.com/2008/01/metrobank-mtap-2008-deped-math.html
2007 - No finalist, no merit awardees
http://mtapncrprivate.blogspot.com/2007/01/2007-metrobank-mtap-deped-ncr-math.html
2006 - 1 Grade5 Third honors
http://mtapncrprivate.blogspot.com/2006/01/merit-awardees-grade-5_29.html
Now, the big questions are ...
1) Reviewing 24x7 is the only secret to achieve this unprecedented feat? Even the popular chinese schools haven't made results similar to this.
2) Perhaps, an overhaul of their preparation strategy, intense math program?
Even more curious is
1) How will they perform in the orals.
a. if they win, won't the results elicit suspicions again and put a big question mark in their victory
b. if they lose, what happened with the first-rate students and why the dismal performance?
Not only this allegation puts a taint in St. Patrick's reputation, but more importantly with the MTAP reputation too. If this will not be investigated and cleared up, it defeats the very purpose of hardwork and honest-to-goodness preparation and review and all. Worse, parents and other school will think about joining and fielding in students next time if this will not be cleared up.
Kawawa ang mga bata. Para silang mga headless kids na naglalakad. Manalo, matalo, ang isyu ng pandaraya puts a shame in their name, their school and even in their future.
Everybody, i am a sucker for underdog stories. Kung ako lang, i would have wanted students from less popular schools to win and shine. Pero hindi kasi ganon lang yon. And hindi usapang review lang ang usapan dito. KAhit basahin ang isang buong textbook, it won't mean na mapeperfect mo at ma-anticipate ang mga questions na darating.
@ Unknown: I salute you!
But... pwede rin naman may leakage sa Regional Individual Finals and Oral Rounds!
I also wants non-Chinese schools to win for a change but MTAP giving priority treament to Public schools to get into National Rounds is uncomprehensible because why should it be this way this year when the rule used to be Top 2 of each Region.
Why only NCR? dapat all regions na lang. Why not Top 2 from both Private & Public schools from each regions?
Tsk tsk di na nga kami nakapasok PMO baka pati MTAP National Finals mawala pa.
i agree with dadriano. we were proctors during the elims and we were also there during the checking of papers along with the center coordinator and representatives of participating schools. st. patrick had a very suspicious behavior while taking the test.
just to give everyone curious a piece of information: Public schools had their eliminations Jan. 20, private schools had it Jan. 21. we've learned that the pricipal of st. patrick school of novaliches is also working at rosa susano elementary school. it's something to think about.. :)
we are sorry for dropping the name of a suspicious school here, for we thought that the owner of this blog site wont approve that comment to be seen publicly. yet we think that it is also a way for everyone who thinks the same, i think the're just waiting for someone to break the silence. :) let this be a way to clear things up, and not to put a blame on anyone especially the children.
if public schools would have the oral finals earlier than the private schools, i think there would be a possible leakage again.
we're not accusing st. patrick, we just want it to be investigated for it is a shocking story. kahit kau ang lumugar sa ganito i am sure you would also be curious and would do the same..
@ santillan: yes grade 1 attend the six week mtap review session
@santillan yes grade 1 pupils also attend the training sessions but it is so surprising for a first grader to have a score of 49/50. what a talented student they have! :)
Oh my God.
I was really impressed with Rosa Susano ES making it in every grade level most of the time. But now, i better reserve my clap and salute to those whose reputation is untarnished.
Kakalungkot naman ito. What's the point of doing this? To further a school's reputation? Reputation as cheaters is all they'll get!
@unknown ; good day sir. maybe we can schedule a meeting and i'll introduce you to the student with the score of 49/50, you're free to test his skills for you to tell yourself, so you can sleep well at night.
And 2nd, why you're so bitter about the results? do you have a child whose passed over by the the student of st. patrick? don't tell me you're only concern about it?
@NTGB in all fairness to Rosa Susano ES, they have very bright students in math. They also attend regular MTG training and they show consistency in their performances. I should know, I was once an MTG trainer.. :-)
Do not be such imbecile persons. Giving an accusation does not help in building a person's self esteem. I am one of those participants you're buzzing about. St. Patrick School of Novaliches excels in mathematics. Why? Because of the great teachers. And I, a sophomore math enthusiast, assure you that there is no leakage of answers during the said elimination. Hence, we think you shall stop giving false accusations. As said in the bible, "Ang unang pumukol ng bato ay siyang walang kasalanan". Thanks. (ZRF)
think before you click ..
@ unknown write a formal complaint dont show your bitterness here ..
wag mo idamay ang grade 1 na bata na walang kamalay malay ..write to the commitee proctor / teacher ka do your ethiquettes lam mo ang mga SOP..may reklamo ka dun mo ireklamo sa MTAP commitee.
@ Jake: Read your comment... watch your words... now, you are really showing the MTAP crowd what type of people St. Patrick has! Congrats! You win!!!
Kindly answer this question.
I believe, every year, they always do a 6-week MTAP review as a preparation for this contest.
Why then St. Patrick never made results like this is the past? They've been sending the same srudents pero how come they didnt perform well before. Say yung grade6 nila, 6 years nang well-trained and mentored and all, bakit ni hindi nakakuha ng third honor merits kahit minsan? And now they suddenly get high scores? Come on! Napakadubious ng ganitong feat.
At dahil halos lahat kami ay never nainvolve sa cheating at hindi piniling mag-cheat to move ahead, kaya kami nagpupukol ng mga tanong nauntilnow hindi nyo naman masagot.
About Rosa Susano ES, i'm pretty sure thekids are honest-to-goodness very good. I became a fan when i frst got into this MTAP thingy and learned of their previous performances.
But now that a teacher, who is a principal of another school, is dragged into a controversy of cheating, their reputation is now tainted dahil sa kagagawan ng iba.
Funny nga eh. Kung sino yung public school, sila yung nagpoproduce ng impressive results ad still silently proud of it. Unlike some private school, dubious yung feat yet they are proud of it. Talk about blind fanaticism.
Bumaba na pala samga schools ang kulturang pulitika.
@NTGB ; magandang araw, ang estudyante po bang nagkaron ng mababang puntos sa sa mga nakaraang pagsusulit ay hindi na pwedeng bumangon uli at makabawi? kung mababasa po ito ng mga estudyanteng kalahok ay baka mawawalan sila ng gana na sumali uli. at para po maitala ang estudyang may puntos na 49/50 ay unang beses na sumali sa MTAP. salamat.
@ Ivan.
Tama ka, posibleng makapuntos at maka-perfect kahit ang isang baguhan. Pero kung pagbabatayan ang naging record ng St. Patrick, kapuna-punang hindi sila ganon katikas noon di tulad ng ngayon. At sa isang iglap, LAHAT ng kanilang delegado ay biglang de primero ang performance? Hindi ka man lang ba maghihinala sa ganon?
Mas katanggap-tanggap siguro kung may pailan-ilan na pumasok at magkamit ng merit awardees. Kahit ang mga batikang Chinese Schools ay hindi pa nakapagtala na lahat ng kanilang ipinadala ay halos i-perfect at magkamit lahat ng merits. Pero ang makapasok ang LAHAT at magkamal ng Merit Awards ay isang senyales ng kaduwagan at kasuwapangan. Kaduwagan dahil hindi hinayaan ang tunay na galing ng mga bata ang syang magdikta ng kanilang kapalaran, at kasuwapangan dahil nawalan ng delikadesa na huwag ipangalandakan ang obviously ay isang malaking pandaraya.
Nagtitimpi lang ang ilan dito sa kanilang pagtatanong. Maging ang mga coaches na halos mamatay kakaturo sa kanilang mga estudyante ay nagulat sa biglaang pag-angat ng BUONG delegado ng St. Patrick.
Nawa'y isabuhay ninyo ang turo ni St. PAtrick na syang patron saint ng mga engineers. Tama nga naman, na-"engineer" nyo na ang naging resulta ng inyong napakahusay na performance sa MTAP. Kung ito'y sa malinis na paraan, isang karapat-sdapat na palakpak at saludo sa inyo. Pero kung it'y nakamit nyo sa pamamagitan ng hindi tama at mapanlamang na paraan, ang Diyos na at ang inyong Patron saint ang syang bahala sa inyong karma.
@ O_o: I agree with you!
Nagtitimpi lang ang marami... Fair contest lang ang dapat. and total CHANGE ng mga questions!
@0-o
AMEN. well said. :-)
May the truth prevail.
@O_o
again as I said, hindi ba pwedeng bumawi at makabangon ang isang estudyanteng nakakuha ng mababang puntos sa nakaraang pagsusulit?
hindi ko po minamaliit ang mga chinese school dahil half chinese po ako pero wala po bang karapatang mag excel ang ibang school?
mawalang galang na, wala po akong pakialam kung nagtitimpi kayo. wala pong mawawala sa amin.
sabi mo nga naghihinala ka, kaya dapat sigurado ka muna na nandaya ang st.patrick bago po kayo magbitaw ng salitang duwag at suwapang. tamang asal po ba yan tanong ko lang?
hindi po ako direktang kampi sa st. patrick kaya gusto ko rin pong magkaron ng imbestigasyon para maliwanagan tayong lahat.
dahan dahan lang tayo sa mga salita. unknown and O_o pwede kayong daanin sa legal action dahil sa mga sinabi niyo.
@ ivanA
Tama yung linya --- ano nga bang mawawala sa inyo, wala naman talaga. Sa inyo wala, pero sa ibang mga bata, malaki ang nawala. Kawawa yung ibang bata na hindi nakapasok sa individuals and teams finals dahil sa nangyaring posibleng dayaan, when they actually deserve to be there.
Sana lang po sagutin ang tanong.
Anong pagbabago ang ginawa ng isang school para makapag-produce ng ganitong resulta? Hindi ako naniniwala sa bugbugang review lang para mangyari ito
1. Nagpalit ba ng buong kaguruan ng Math sa isang eskwela?
2. Ibang estudyante ang ipinadala this time dahil sa hindi magandang performance ng mga batang unang ipinadala?
At yung legal action na sinasabi mo, ganyang-ganyan ang panakot ng mga tulad ni Corona, Erap at Gloria. Nawala na talaga yung delikadesa man lang, sariling delikadesa na timbangin ang sarili sa natamong kapakinabangan kung hindi naging sanhi ng kabiguan ng iba.
Peace.
A teacher noted an unusual speed by the St. Patrick contestants in answering the questions.
Had they gotten the same results but done in a more discreet manner, it wouldn't have elicited suspicions. Maybe, it's also imperative to ask MTAP for the scratch papers used by the contestants to show if they had solutions to problems.
It will definitely be incredible if the kids are so good that they solved everything mentally! Then i should enroll my kid in that program!
@ unknown; hi! as i said pwede taung mag set ng meeting with that particular student. para maliwanagan ka. i think it's not only the school it's the child. thanks.
@pedro; good day. tama ka kawawa nga ang ibang bata kung sakaling meron ngang dayaan. pero paano kung wala? ano na ang sasabihin mo? kung magkaron nga ng investigation sana hantayin natin ang result bago ka magsalita n kawawa naman sila and they deserve to be there.
bugbugang review nga ang nangyari kay 49/50 student. siguro ganun din ang ginawa nila sa iba.
baka kaya hindi nakapasok ang ibang estudyante ay hindi sila naniniwala sa ganung review kagaya mo.
ung iba mong tanong d ko masasagot yan dahil hindi ako empleyado ng st. patrick.
wala rin akong kinalaman sa mga sinabi ni gloria, erap at corona.
pero totoong meron legal action sa nagbibintang at naninira ng puri.
mas maganda pala mag tagalog dito.
maraming sumasagot sa komento mo.
what happen sa MTAP finals ..may kakaiba na nman ba balita nman jan @unknown at john mga dakilang reporter ng bayan
Dear Loving Son,
Mag-abang po kayo ng resulta ng Individual Regional Result sa Elementary. Then, i-analyze nyo po ung tinatawag nyong bugbugang review na ginawa ng school sa anak nyo. Paano kung kahit isang student sa St. Patrick School of Novaliches walang pumasok sa top 10. (I-check nyo din po kung nasa bottom 10 sila.) Ang biktima rito ay ang mga bata. Sa mga guro sa matematika, masarap manalo sa contest sa patas na paraan. Hindi lang po numbers ang dapat ituro natin sa kanila, kundi magandang asal din.
@guro matematika : tama ka dun mga bata ang biktima kawawa dahil kung meron man cla leakage ang mga guro ang dapat sisihin at ang pamunuan ng school dahil ang mga bata ay nagrereview lamang at sumusunod sa kanilang nakakataas di nila alam ang mga ganun bagay dahil nirereview lamang sila at sumasagot sa mga test exam na provide ng school tama ba ko ? mga inosente cla dahil gusto lng din nilang patunayan na kaya nila pro may mga tao na umaabuso at gusto tumaas kaya ginamit cla ..
@ivana
tell it to the marines! :)
i dont think you can convince anyone here with the way you speak. hindi madadaan sa pagtataray ang katotohanan! :)
dont be so defensive, lalo kau napaghahalata..
Sa mga taong sumusubaybay...
Ilang araw na lang at malalaman na natin ang resulta ng Individual Regionals. Marami tayong natutunang leksyon dito. Sa mga guro na katulad ko, daig pa natin ang pusher, kasi tayong mga guro ay may malaking impluwensya sa mga students natin. A teacher affects eternity; he can never tell where his influence stops. Itama na lang natin ang dapat itama. Magkita na lang tayo sa area orals, at kung papalarin sa sectoral, regional and national....
@unknown : better stop your hurting the student already bata yan harassment na ginagawa mo sa kanila ..tumawag ka na lang sa kinauukulan wag mo na idamay ang bata..kung may leakage go ahead talk to officials involve show them your proofs..
@ivana : pabayaan mo na.. idedma mo na lang yan.
@unknown
hindi ko naman kayo kinukumbinse, i'm just telling my side.
lalo kaming napaghahalataang ano?
truth hurts
Di pa tapos ang showdown ng St. Patrick... meron pang Area Finals!
Area 2, exciting ang area nyo this year.
@pretty girl
madaming unknown dito.
Pero one thing is sure --- we were not pointing to the kids as the culprit to this mess. The truth is, sila ang biktima (which has been consistently regarded) because of SOME ADULTS WANTING THEIR PRESENCE IN THE FINALS SA HINDI TAMANG PARAAN. If you will just back-read, you will realize the pity felt by the people here towards the kids of that school. Again, the accusations are levelled directly to the school officials and even coaches, never to the kids.
And unfortunately, the after-effects wont end this year. Definitely, next year, all eyes will be on that school. At even worse, "damn if they do get to the finals, and damn again if they don't".
Kaya payo sa mga magulang at teachers, wag natin i-feed ng maling diskarte ang mga bata just to gain honor. It's not honorable in the first place. Let them value the honest-to-goodness fruit of hard labor and delayed gratification.
sana po sa susunod na taon hindi magkaroon ng katulad na pangyayari at sana ay wala ng maghangad na makalamang sa iba paaralan kasi ang mga nagiging biktima ay mga inosenteng bata at sana po tandaan nyo na hindi ang pagkapanalo ang tunay na diwa ng kompetisyon kundi ang pakikilahok dito ng may puso at dignidad mas masarap manalo ng pinaghirapan. At ang kaalaman na binahagi nyo sa bata bilang guro ay kanyang magagamit hindi lang sa kompetisyon na ito kundi hanggang sa kanyang paglahok sa iba pang kompetisyon at hanggang sa kanyang paglaki.
the results are in...
poor st. patrick :(
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